tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527613590529958801.post6291279521395813697..comments2024-03-07T23:20:49.790-07:00Comments on Genealogy's Star: Genealogy, Profession or Pursuasion?James Tannerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02989059644120454647noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527613590529958801.post-76128919818274072992011-07-27T15:06:50.501-07:002011-07-27T15:06:50.501-07:00In the end any citation no matter its format, if u...In the end any citation no matter its format, if used in any publication without an image of the original or a facimale thereof, is still a secondary source and it is still incumbent on the one who uses the source to verify the accuracy of the origianl....getting us into all kinds of interesting dicussions of using published abstracts, etc.<br /><br />For almost 40 years in my own family history, a published source, transcribed of a 18th century parish record, has been cited as the documented evidence that a man had 2 sons, when, had the researchers gone to the original microfilmed source,(the only source now available from the Virginia State Library or the FHC) would have seen the error, that what had been transcribed and published by the author, a renowned historian of his day, was in error and that in the orginal manuscripted records in exqusite handwriting it was written as one son.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527613590529958801.post-59725648569587399162011-07-25T05:12:15.400-07:002011-07-25T05:12:15.400-07:00Ah, but you can call yourself a professional genea...Ah, but you can call yourself a professional genealogist without ever becoming certified or accredited. Most would want to I imagine, but there is no requirement.Cherie Cayemberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00748187506552981093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527613590529958801.post-34264557181272520772011-07-24T23:40:30.613-07:002011-07-24T23:40:30.613-07:00One last thing: My suggested citation for my blog ...One last thing: My suggested citation for my blog posts is not intended to prevent linking directly to the posts. In fact, in another post, I specifically recommend using both methods in order to take advantage of the unique abilities present in online publishing. :)<br /><br />MichaelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527613590529958801.post-27956137413359320042011-07-24T23:37:11.305-07:002011-07-24T23:37:11.305-07:00James,
I hope that you did not misunderstand the ...James,<br /><br />I hope that you did not misunderstand the point of my post. I have vehemently argued *against* the exclusivity of even professional genealogy. I myself do not hold a college degree, and would be excluded by those who desire the exclusivity that you discuss in this post. I am completey self-taught, yet my work meets the stringent BCG Standards.<br /><br />On the other hand, I do see genealogy as ultimately an academic pursuit. Everyone, even the most casual hobbyist, desires the truth. Part of achieving this is following research standards, as you yourself have often supported in this blog. The Genealogical Proof Standard requires that all citations be full and accurate. It does not state which citation method should be used.<br /><br />As I outlined in my blog post, it is proper to use the Chicago style because the other styles are insufficient to cite original records. MLA and APA simply do not contain a format to cite them. So Chicago (which also happens to be the citation format preferred by historians) wins the battle by default.<br /><br />Both Evidence Explained (the preferred genealogy citation format) and Turabian (which you use in this post) are based on the Chicago Manual of Style. Neither is a separate, stand-alone citation format. You might also note that your citation of Evidence Explained, which you describe as Turabian format, is identical to how you would cited the book using its own prescribed format. This is because both share the common CMOS foundation.<br /><br />Michael Hait, CGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527613590529958801.post-61156154714005517872011-07-24T21:04:49.910-07:002011-07-24T21:04:49.910-07:00Ultimately, my citations must satisfy one person -...Ultimately, my citations must satisfy one person -- me. Some are rock solid. Some have simply come when I have decided from the evidence -- positive, negative, and not present -- that this is the real thing. I am by training and practice a retired journalism teacher with college degrees with both history and journalism majors. History is not decided by a board or organization. History is history and genealogy is genealogy. Both can be a little messy, but they do not detract from the fact that some leaps of faith are necessary. Sometimes multiple on the scene of the crime citations are not ever going to be available.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15600234487044980364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527613590529958801.post-27538290690108394992011-07-24T18:02:56.578-07:002011-07-24T18:02:56.578-07:00I spent quite a bit of time cleaning up my citatio...I spent quite a bit of time cleaning up my citations recently. I finally settled for this standard: Each citation, regardless of format, must answer the question, "Why do I think that?" I simply must know why a fact is entered into my database. I know that my more recent citations are better formatted than my early ones, and I am fixing my earlier ones as I come across them. However, If I spend the next 3 years reformatting citations, I will find little joy in my hobby. I enjoy genealogy, I enjoy digging for facts about my family and I don't want this to turn into a citing contest. I don't have the time, and my family doesn't really care. If someone thinks my genealogy, or my writing us unprofessional, so be it.GrannyPamhttp://www.warrenweb.info/genealogynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527613590529958801.post-8526919372992444092011-07-24T17:22:39.332-07:002011-07-24T17:22:39.332-07:00To me, a Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetist (C...To me, a Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetist (CRNA) I feel that a Profession is something that is obtained by education and experience. <br /><br />Your training and expertise is rewarded by monetary compensation. I also feel that the powers that be in education are trying to expand their talons into professions by constantly raising the bar to Masters and Doctorate degrees in order to justify their existence and increase the amount of money in the educational coffers. <br /><br />If you are making your lively hood by doing research and genealogy, it is your profession. I am trying to find my ancestors and it is my hobby. <br /><br />I believe that citations are necessary to document where our ancestors originated. Do I, as a hobbiest, need to be criticized by others when I do not follow their exacting specifications? <br /><br />I do not think so, I do not plan on Genealogy as a career but I think that an advanced degree in the subject does not make me a better researcher for what I want to do for my personal satisfaction.Claudiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02714440790407126206noreply@blogger.com