tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527613590529958801.post5630074199214503898..comments2024-03-21T19:08:05.737-07:00Comments on Genealogy's Star: A Genealogical ConversationJames Tannerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02989059644120454647noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527613590529958801.post-68332170856643832622014-06-30T07:28:26.816-07:002014-06-30T07:28:26.816-07:00Here is one of my basic rules: Absence of an obitu...Here is one of my basic rules: Absence of an obituary or death record is not proof that a person is still living. You might want to think about this and some of my other basic rules. James Tannerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02989059644120454647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527613590529958801.post-54792569729075401872014-06-30T06:51:37.895-07:002014-06-30T06:51:37.895-07:00Yes, but I write candidly, and am not concerned ab...Yes, but I write candidly, and am not concerned about being politically correct. I am more evaluation centered; not in having popular approval.<br />Two examples:<br />https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10201492174961218&id=261975771423<br />and, if you take the time, the last reply in LDS Studies . . .<br />http://lds-studies.blogspot.com/2010/08/connection-between-melchizedek-and-shem.html<br /><br />I used to have Wikipedia notice, but was taken down with vengeance.<br />http://www.territorioscuola.com/wikipedia/en.wikipedia.php?title=Thomas_Milton_Tinney,_Sr.<br />http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Toldhim12<br />[FYI - I just cleaned up the article on Thomas Milton Tinney, Sr. per the tags you previously added. . . . I'd appreciate it if you'd have a look. After deleting all the cruft, it appears to me that this fellow is downright unnotable, despite the fact that he's listed in several Who's Whos (perhaps they were the pay-to-play variety), so I added a BLP deletion tag.. . . I can tell you for a fact that Tinney is non-notable in his field (genealogy), but of course, that's just original research. A Google search produces absolutely nothing written about him, just promotional material and message board posts. But I don't think his biography is particularly "specialist" material. It was written in a pretty quirky way, which made it hard to discern exactly what was meant, so I may have thrown some of the baby out with the bathwater. So I'd be happy if anyone other than Tinney had a look at it. If no one does, then I guess he's non-notable.] "Thomas Milton Tinney Sr" currently gets "About 38,800 results (0.40 seconds)" on a Google Search.<br />https://www.google.com/search?q=thomas+milton+tinney+wikipedia&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb#channel=fflb&q=%22Thomas+Milton+Tinney+Sr%22&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official<br /><br />I may have a "blank" mention in Deseret News for a future obituary, as I have no "importance or significance of a real person."<br />http://www.deseretnews.com/topics/1894/Thomas-Milton-Tinney,-Sr.html<br />My main concern now is to preserve alive: academic-genealogy.com, which I try to diligently maintain all links unbroken on an annual basis.<br />Thomas Milton Tinney Srhttp://academic-genealogy.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527613590529958801.post-37827222811704872312014-06-29T18:36:56.562-07:002014-06-29T18:36:56.562-07:00A very interesting commentary. Thanks for adding t...A very interesting commentary. Thanks for adding that aspect of the post. It sounds to me like you need to write your own blog. Have you thought of doing that?James Tannerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02989059644120454647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527613590529958801.post-83673145188718525612014-06-29T17:43:28.082-07:002014-06-29T17:43:28.082-07:00James Tanner, what conclusions could you draw if y...James Tanner, what conclusions could you draw if you inserted a good Jewish Rabbi into your hypothetical conversation? I lived for a time with a real Jewish Holocaust survivor, and absorbed from him, a deep appreciation for the House of Israel. Your good Jewish Rabbi would have told them to look to the holy Septuagint; [translation of the Hebrew Bible and some related texts into Koine Greek], for the correct historical word definition origins of genealogist or generational historian.<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septuagint<br /><br />Your learned Rabbi might initially become very skeptical, like the friends of Job, and ask your fellow genealogists penetratingly, if they were trying to rewrite the law, since [at common law, notarial service is distinct from the practice of law, and giving legal advice and preparing legal instruments is forbidden to lay notaries such as those appointed throughout most of the United States of America.] He would say to your hypothetical friends who are Christians, who look to Christ, that even He, their Savior, considered Himself a legal and lawful advocate between them and their Father. [Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets; I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily, I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law till all be fulfilled.] The good Rabbi would note that historically, [In rabbinic argumentation "destroy" means "misinterpret" while "fulfill" means "correctly interpret."]<br />http://tyndalearchive.com/scriptures/www.innvista.com/scriptures/compare/gospels2.htm<br /><br />Your good Rabbi would then point to the example of Ezra, and note that currently, in America, there is law and order, under the banner of the U.S. Constitution; it [does not grant power based on popularity], and their records should not be produced to satisfy popular demands. The good Rabbi would present a beginner's understanding of the duties of Ezra, [the ideal type for the New Testament scribe], noting significantly, [New Testament scribes traced their origin back to Ezra].<br />http://www.learnthebible.org/what-is-a-scribe.html<br /><br />Your good Rabbi would caution your four genealogists to not ever get caught up [in the intricate web of arguments over technical details that kills the spirit of God.] Nevertheless, he would point out emphatically, that meritoriously submitting names for LDS temple ordinance work, without basic elementary documentation, was name gathering.<br />http://www.keyway.ca/htm2002/scribes.htm<br /><br />Now this humble, yet brilliant Rabbi, would quote Wikipedia "scribe", describing how [Later the profession developed into public servants, journalists, accountants, typists, and lawyers.]<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scribe<br /><br />The good Rabbi would tell his fellow "genealogists", that their alleged modern profession functioned anciently as the duty of being a scribe. He would note that when a genealogist or generational historian is properly, academically cross-disciplinary credentialed today, their series of responsibilities are also inherent in the notary public, civil-law notaries, etc., legally and lawfully recognized by governments worldwide, (and that they should witness and authenticate all of their research efforts). <br /><br />Particularly, the good Rabbi would suggest that like civil-law notaries, they should be [drafting, authenticating, and registering {and validating - invalidating online} certain types of transactional or legal instruments {family trees or pedigrees that potentially have eternal ramifications}], and that it would be helpful if they had legal [expertise in a broad spectrum of private law including family law, estate and testamentary law], etc.; so that their professional decisions will not be altered or overridden by prior or subsequent research findings, because of their excellent, reasonably exhaustive studies of compiled family records.<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notary_public<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_law_notary<br />https://www.nationalnotary.org/Thomas Milton Tinney Srhttp://academic-genealogy.com/archives.htmnoreply@blogger.com