tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527613590529958801.post6153925967527149996..comments2024-03-21T19:08:05.737-07:00Comments on Genealogy's Star: Dates, Dates and More Dates -- Understanding HistoryJames Tannerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02989059644120454647noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527613590529958801.post-40894493920232831962016-04-28T21:13:17.232-07:002016-04-28T21:13:17.232-07:00You might also note that I said, other European Se...You might also note that I said, other European Settlements go back 1492. St. Augustine was founded in 1565. But of course, they spoke Spanish or the equivalent at the time. James Tannerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02989059644120454647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527613590529958801.post-86669318160220571862016-04-28T21:11:12.717-07:002016-04-28T21:11:12.717-07:00Both of these comments are right. But I haven'...Both of these comments are right. But I haven't seen any citations to the records you reference in your comment lately. Especially not on my part of the Family Tree. By the way, pipe rolls are essentially continuous from 1155 onwards until the 19th Century. They are also online see https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE84214 for example. I will stand by my date, until I start seeing some sources in the Family Tree and other online family trees. James Tannerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02989059644120454647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527613590529958801.post-80859026905328071722016-04-28T21:03:30.037-07:002016-04-28T21:03:30.037-07:00Of course you are right. But how many people know ...Of course you are right. But how many people know that date? Apparently, the Mayflower has better PR. James Tannerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02989059644120454647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527613590529958801.post-43649838344432375602016-04-28T18:33:36.293-07:002016-04-28T18:33:36.293-07:00I have been reading your blog for several years an...I have been reading your blog for several years and agree with you most of the time. However you, as many who had ancestors on the Mayflower, ignore that British America started in Jamestown in 1607. Although over 90% of all immigrants who arrived before 1620 died quickly there are dozens of immigrants who have documented descendants living today. Adventurers of Purse and Person edited by Frederick Dorman list over a hundred immigrant lineages from people who arrived by the Muster of 1624/25. kml23185https://www.blogger.com/profile/00254819210903066019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527613590529958801.post-17061572594913082742016-04-28T08:39:39.085-07:002016-04-28T08:39:39.085-07:00Whilst your 1500 date may be taken to be the earli...Whilst your 1500 date may be taken to be the earliest date for the majority of the population it is not true for all.<br />One very good source for earlier records of births and deaths is the inquisitions post mortem (a local enquiry (covering the period 1239-1640) into the lands held by people of (from) the crown).<br />IPMs in addition to wills from around 1384 provide a good means to build family lines.<br />There are also many other records from medieval times that may be used to support the construction of family trees such as pipe rolls, chancery proceedings, taxation lists, papist lists, feet of fines, etc., etc.<br />In addition Court baron and Court Leet records and similar add further information to individuals found<br /><br />I would agree they are not as simple to use and require more work to make reasonable assumptions but it is certainly possible to push a family further back than you suggest.<br /><br />Cheers<br />Guy<br />Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14661609230878792638noreply@blogger.com