England, Oxford, Bodleian Library, Auct. F.4.32 See http://image.ox.ac.uk/show-all-openings?collection=bodleian&manuscript=msauctf432 |
There are a total of 6,160 collections that include records in the 1600s, as of the date of this post, But you can also see from looking down the list that there are very few that go back into the early 1500s and almost no records earlier than 1500 A.D. Here are a few of the exceptions:
- London, England, Poor Law and Board of Guardian Records, 1430-1930
- Switzerland, Select Baptisms, 1491-1940 (in French)
- Lübeck, Germany, Genealogical Register, 1200-1910 (in German)
- Lübeck, Germany, Genealogical Register, 1200-1910 (in German)
- Ireland, Indexes to Wills, 1384-1858
- UK, Extracted Probate Records, 1269-1975
- England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858
[Note: the links are to Ancestry.com and you will need to login to see the databases]. Here is a page from the Lübeck, Deutschland, genealogisches Register, 1200-1910:
There are other records, of course, but what are the chances that your ancestors end up in any one of these records? Before I try to answer that question, let me review some of the linguistic and record keeping history in Europe. I might note that there are places where family lines can be traced back much, much further such as China, where some genealogies go back as far as 200 B.C. or so. But even in these cases, it depends on whether or not you can trace your own ancestry to one of these ancient lines. For a useful explanatory summary of the extant English records, for an example, see MedievalGenealogy.org.uk
There are other records, of course, but what are the chances that your ancestors end up in any one of these records? Before I try to answer that question, let me review some of the linguistic and record keeping history in Europe. I might note that there are places where family lines can be traced back much, much further such as China, where some genealogies go back as far as 200 B.C. or so. But even in these cases, it depends on whether or not you can trace your own ancestry to one of these ancient lines. For a useful explanatory summary of the extant English records, for an example, see MedievalGenealogy.org.uk
If you are attempting research back into the 1500s or earlier, you will certainly find that the modern languages spoken today are not the same as those spoken and written in these earlier times. You will also find many of the records written in some form of Latin. In England, because the first printed books did not appear until the end of the 1400s, most of the records and books before that time are comparatively rare, especially those written in the common language and not in Latin. This is true in other European countries also.
The further you research into the Middle Ages, you will find that from 900 A.D. until after 1300 A.D., Latin in various forms was the predominant and official language of the Catholic Church and was used for all forms of scholarship. Before the age of printing, introduced by Johannes Gutenberg around 1439, all books and other manuscripts were handwritten and the number of copies of any one book or record was very limited.
The challenge of this early research is not only learning to read Latin, but also learning to decipher earlier forms of handwriting such as Carolinian script used from 800 A.D. to 1200 A.D. Here is an example of Carolinian in the variation called Beneventan:
The further you research into the Middle Ages, you will find that from 900 A.D. until after 1300 A.D., Latin in various forms was the predominant and official language of the Catholic Church and was used for all forms of scholarship. Before the age of printing, introduced by Johannes Gutenberg around 1439, all books and other manuscripts were handwritten and the number of copies of any one book or record was very limited.
The challenge of this early research is not only learning to read Latin, but also learning to decipher earlier forms of handwriting such as Carolinian script used from 800 A.D. to 1200 A.D. Here is an example of Carolinian in the variation called Beneventan:
Greetham, D.C. Textual Scholarship: An Introduction. New York: Garland Publishing 1994, 184 |
Here is another example called Irish Minuscule:
Bischoff, Bernhard. Latin Paleography; antiquity and the Middle Ages. Great Britain: Cambridge Univeristy Press 1990, 85-86 |
The following images are a few illustrations of manuscripts starting with the 1600s and going backwards in time. Mind you, all these are examples of English books:
England, Durham Diocese Bishop's Transcripts, 1639-1919 |
England, Cornwall and Devon Parish Registers, 1538-2010 |
Another 100 years takes us to a will written in about 1440:
England, Kent, Wills and Probate, 1440-1881 |
Going back yet another 100 years begins to be very difficult. The 1300s are well into the Middle Ages and all of the modern languages have changed considerably since that time. To read the manuscripts, you will have to learn at least Latin and perhaps other languages.
[Officia beatae Mariae virginis et defunctorum]: Book of Hours. ca. 1390 |
Now we are really launching off into the past. The 13th Century begins to be even before the Middle Ages.
[Liber quatuor evangelistarum] Bible N.T. Gospels Latin ca. 1270. |
[The four gospels in Greek : Codex Torontonensis]. Bible N.T. Gospels Greek ca. 1100. |
This last manuscript is in Greek. I am not trying to discourage anyone from doing research back into the Middle Ages and beyond, I am just suggesting that unless you have these skills and can read these manuscripts, you are probably copying and not doing research. When someone mentions to me that their genealogy "goes back to Charlemagne" or even "back to Adam" I always think about these examples of the script and language necessary to do that kind of research even assuming it was possible to construct such a pedigree. I fully realize that there are people who can read these manuscripts, but if you read what they say, you will quickly realize that pushing your pedigree back before about 1550 A.D. would require years of study and hard work.
I have quoted this before, but it bears repeating from time to time first printed in the Ensign magazine of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in February 1984. I suggest you read the entire article if you think your pedigree can go back to Adam,
I have quoted this before, but it bears repeating from time to time first printed in the Ensign magazine of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in February 1984. I suggest you read the entire article if you think your pedigree can go back to Adam,
Robert C. Gunderson, Senior Royalty Research Specialist, Church Genealogical Department. The simplest answer to both questions is No. Let me explain. In thirty-five years of genealogical research, I have yet to see a pedigree back to Adam that can be documented. By assignment, I have reviewed hundreds of pedigrees over the years. I have not found one where each connection on the pedigree can be justified by evidence from contemporary documents. In my opinion it is not even possible to verify historically a connected European pedigree earlier than the time of the Merovingian Kings (c. A.D. 450–A.D. 752).
Every pedigree I have seen which attempts to bridge the gap between that time and the biblical pedigree appears to be based on questionable tradition, or at worst, plain fabrication. Generally these pedigrees offer no evidence as to the origin of the information, or they cite a vague source.If you are interested in doing research in Europe during the Middle Ages, I suggest that you start early and begin by taking a course in Latin.
One needs a special handwriting class to read Spanish court documents and government records before 1600. And these classes are only to be found in Spain. You can see the records on the National Archives website from Madrid, but good luck reading them! And they haven't been transcribed into English.
ReplyDeleteYou are right. This is especially true if you jump back to the 1600s without any preparation. You can sometimes learn by working your way back from contemporary documents.
DeleteJames, I must be a medieval woman because I feel more comfortable reading the old Latin in Pre-1700 Hungarian records as my research days go by, LOVE this article..........thanks ! Magda
ReplyDeleteThank you for linking to my website, "Some notes on medieval English genealogy", but unfortunately you have the URL slightly wrong. It should be:
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Chris Phillips
Thanks for the heads up. I made the change.
DeleteI have often wondered how people can believe they have proven a lineage back to ancient times. I enjoyed this post, especially with the list of the earliest sources that can be found in database collections. This post will be on my list of Recommended Reads tomorrow at www.emptybranchesonthefamilytree.com. Thank you!
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ReplyDeleteI want to let you know that your wonderful post is listed in today's Fab Finds post at http://janasgenealogyandfamilyhistory.blogspot.com/2014/09/follow-friday-fab-finds-for-september_26.html
Have a great weekend!
James, as I had thought the odds of finding a source that old for a particular ancestor are very slim. And even slimmer that we could understand the source.
ReplyDeleteI've been very VERY fortunate with my tree going back to a 1575 burial. My Staniforth family was very well off and regarded in the city of Sheffield, and fortunately a few books were written in the 1700s and 1800s that contained charts. Although I have never been able to find a baptism for my 12x great grandfather who was buried in 1575 (Although a few tree's online give him a birth date and parents, which I have NO idea where they got those from, seems like complete rubbish to me), I have found his name on his sons baptism which occurred in 1560, amongst the first baptisms at his particular church, and also obviously his death record from 1575.
ReplyDeleteI found my tree back to about 1510 , with all docs traceable in Aublain Belgium. and surrounding towns in Belgium. Then I connected to another tree that goes back to Constantine and Atilla the Hun. It keeps going back for thousands of years. I don't know how accurate it is but it is very interesting. It could be correct back to about 1200 or so because it is connected to a verified tree ?? There is only one problem with a fellow about 1680 who had a mistress and she had three children , Catherine Bourlant was one of them and she married into my line. It is the fellows first wife who has the line going back. Some people on the site show Catherine as a daughter of the first wife but I think it is incorrect. In any case I can still go back to 1510 and that is pretty good.
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