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These two pages of newspaper were refused as documents in the FamilySearch.org Memories section. The first one mentions a Tanner family reunion and the second one mentions the death of my Great-grandmother.
HI,
FamilySearch is worried about “commercial advertising” from 90 years ago? Perhaps we need to add a date qualifier to that rule? Thanks anyway.
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James Tanner
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On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 11:59 AM, support@familysearch.org wrote:
Dear James Tanner,
Thank you for contacting the FamilySearch support team. Your support case #02140690 has been updated.
Thank you for contacting us regarding Artifact 23387032 on familysearch.org. This has been restricted since it violates policy.Specifically no commercial advertising We suggest you crop your article to just the death notices and eliminate the advertisements. We really appreciate your interest in FamilySearch and wish you great success in your family history efforts
This is your original case description:
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OK, so why are there hundreds of digital newspaper websites that have digitized images of the entire newspaper page? Why does the Library of Congress' Chronicling America website show full newspaper pages? Why does the Utah Digital Newspaper Project from the University of Utah show full newspaper pages? Just wondering.
By the way, as far as I can tell, all of these companies are long out of business. One page is dated August 23, 1939 and the other is dated August 25, 1930.
I have a full page in my memories that shows advertisements for a bedroom set and Wards convertible ice refrigerator from 1943. I liked putting the full page in because it shows a little bit of context for the article or obituary...I hope there are no repercussions. ;)
ReplyDeleteThe context to any source is always helpful Thanks for the comment.
DeleteFull newspaper pages are digitized and archived because you don't know in advance what people might be looking for in historic newspapers. For instance, we have university students who may be studying the history of advertising and need to see what newspaper ads looked like decades ago. However, I assume that the purpose of the Memories section is to preserve the specific information relating to the memory, and not the entire page in which that article appeared.
ReplyDeleteI think that the entire page is the "source" It is very common to see a cut-out newspaper article with the name of the newspaper and the date of publication missing.
DeleteYes, and I doubt that FamilySearch would have any problem with including the part of the paper that provides the citation.
DeleteI agree with you James. There should be a date qualifier. When I first saw the Studebaker ad I thought it added historical context to the reunion ad. This context can be valuable to researchers. This is why we are encouraged to save full pages of the newspaper.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the comment. I believe that any source, if it is to be seriously considered needs to be evaluated in its historical context. Hence, I think the entire newspaper page is necessary as a minimum.
DeleteWhat good would a date qualifier do in either of the examples they are both printed in a commercial newspaper that is currently published?
ReplyDeleteThat means even if the pages had no other advertisement on it the title at the top of the page would still form a commercial advertisement.
Don't ask me how one could cite the source without advertising the commercial newspaper though
Cheers
Guy
If you considered the name of a newspaper an "advertisement" then aren't you advertising any repository by noting the source of your information? If you name a book where you got your information aren't you advertising the book if you follow that line of reasoning?
DeleteI agree that is why I don't understand the “commercial advertising” rules.
DeleteEven sites like the National Archives here in England have a commercial side so if things are taken at face value people should not mention the National Archives on such sites.
Cheers
Guy
Time for a policy revision.
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